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It never even crossed my mind to google if any one else had this addiction. I have been addicted to pine cleaner since 2004. I once thought that it was just a bad habit, but here 6years later, I can not bring myself to stop sniffing it. It's really out of control. It has gotten to the point where I will pour some in a small container to carry along with me. And if I leave home w/out it, I will go to a store just to open the bottle and smell it or I will go into whomever's house I am at trying to locate their bottle-just to sniff. I will literally clean just to smell it. Like many of the other writers, I also inhale for long periods of time while chewing ice. I have extremely low iron. People tell me all the time that they can smell the cleaner when coming up my front porch steps. I have become so immune to the smell, that I never smell the scent they are talking about. I know that I have an addiction because I have asked my husband several times to get me help because I can't stop. We met 6 years ago and he at first thought I was just doing something to get attention. 6 years later, he has realized that I am not kidding about NEEDING to sniff it. My family has even gone to the trouble of hiding the bottles in our home. Funny thing is, I will go out at anytime to any store that is open just to purchase it if it is not accessible to me. When I inhale it, I can actually feel a rush to my head but I still can not take hte bottle away from my nose. I need to keep smelling. And funny, but I will only sniff the orginal scent. I'm not sure whats going on. Why do I sniff it? I don't even know how to stop sniffing it. (dont want to ask for help, they may think I'm crazy). We need help because I am sure this is playing some type of effect on our brain cells. Right now, I consider myself to be above-average in learning and performing, however; the future may bring different if we do not stop inhaling chemicals.
__________________ Navi Washington
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Naviamanda - Sending you cyber hugs Your husband may want to attend a 12-step group for the relatives and friends of those with a drug addiction:
Admitting that one has an addiction is the first step to getting well. Products used for huffing can be physically addictive as well as psychologically addictive. I'm not sure if you've seen the A & E (arts and entertainment) program "Intervention", but Alison had an addiction to huffing, too, and actually went to an inpatient treatment program. The structure and emotional support of a residential (inpatient) program can help to reduce the cravings even more. Please at least talk with a certified addictions counselor. It is imperative before you end up with permanent damage to the brain tissue and/or other vital organs. To search for counseling and treatment programs: http://findtreatment.samhsa.gov/ and can click one's state of residence Narcotics Anonymous has free 12-step groups: http://www.na.org Another 12-step is Alcoholics Anonymous: http://www.aa.org and one may attend an "open" meeting if doesn't have a drinking problem. Some of the mottos with those 12-step groups include "One day at a time", "First things first" and "People, places and things." The first motto refers to taking each day as it comes as to not feel so overwhelmed by the prospect of staying sober. The motto "First things first" can help one to focus on the task at hand if feeling overwhelmed. The third motto pertains to the three ideas which may help to keep one's sobriety such as surrounding oneself with "people" that are supportive in one's recovery - the "places" that one goes such as Not walking down the store aisle with the cleanser or other products used for huffing, taking a brisk walk (please get okay from doctor first), going to the local library or bookstore - the "things" that one does with his or her time such as going to a 12-step meeting, journaling, reading, exercising/physical activity, writing poetry or short stories. The goal is to participate in productive activities and not inhaling fumes or chemical vapors to self-medicate. http://www.nar-anon.org Al-Anon is another 12-step for the family members or friends though of the problem drinker but he may attend an "open" meeting if you (the relative) don't have a drinking problem (and there tends to be a few more Al-Anon meetings nationwide): http://www.al-anon.alateen.org Please take the next step and talk with a licensed professional. Please do be well and make good, healthy choices in life. This site has more information about some more slogans pertaining to the 12-step programs and "tools of recovery" (though not in place of professional help): http://www.royy.com/toolsofrecovery.html
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welll as you can see i am still sniffing i really want to stop..........but i wont tell anybody what my issue is now that i am basically home alone all day,i sniff for CONSTaNTLY FOR minutes i sniff so much wshen someone gets in my car they say you been cleaning n here again.i say yes i guess i'm clean freak(looking silly) but my mom said the other day my eyes looked weak, &i smelled like medicine i said my body was aching from my cold so i put on ben gay i need help is there silent help? i dont knows where to turn? my boyfriend knows but when he says u r addicted i say yeah thats the end of it..... never we're gonna get u some help..........what can i do?..nothing i feel like he may jus try to take my children but not help me
ironically as i sit here begging for help.......i have an open bottle sitting beside me for continued sniffing...i can not leave the house without it.......out of town trips i bring it with me (i say for cleaning but its obviously for sniffing in the vehicle...... riding/driving while everyone is sleeping i sniffffff
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luvmypinesol - I'm sorry that you're still having such difficulty. You can definitely get control over your addiction and life and become sober. Please at least consider outpatient counseling so that you may begin to deal with the issues that may have led you to self-medicate in the first place. It is imperative that you seek professional help so that you don't end up with neurological impairements or dead, both of which will do nothing good for your children.
To search for counseling (and just to reiterate that some programs offer state and/or county funding for those withOut health insurance): http://findtreatment.samhsa.gov/ and can click one's state of residence on the map. For a free 12-step group: http://www.na.org/index.php?ID=home-content-fm A free 12-step group for AA (but one may attend an "open" meeting if doesn't have a drinking problem): http://www.aa.org/lang/en/meeting_finder.cfm?origpage=29 This site has some common mottos with those 12-step groups: http://www.royy.com/toolsofrecovery.html Please take the next step even though it may be scary so that you can be healthy for your kids as well as yourself. Hugs
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@janesmith thank you i will look into it i just dont understand how this happened or what is so gud about it, i dont drink or smoke @
all but the most confusing part is i dunno what it does to me its weird how u become addicted and cant tell somebody well it makes u feel gud or sleepy or happy i dont knows anything except i cant quit
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luvmypinesol - I understand what you're saying about not knowing what led you to start to self-medicate to begin with as most people with a drug (or any) addiction may not be consciously aware of the issues that may have caused the addiction. The next step to take is to get outside professional help so that perhaps an addictions counselor may help you to learn about those factors and how to cope with everyday stressors and difficulties in a positive, healthy manner. Addictions counseling may also help one to prevent relapsing, too. Please do take the next leap and get professional help. Here is the site from an earlier post:
http://findtreatment.samhsa.gov/ and can click one's state of residence on the map. This site has online 12-step Alcoholics Anonymous meetings (and one may 'attend' an "open" meeting if doesn't have a drinking problem): http://www.aa-intergroup.org/directory.php and can click "meeting browser" or such. This site is supposed to have online Narcotics Anonymous meetings: http://www.12stepforums.net/na The only requirement for 12-step programs is that the person has a desire to get sober. Please be aware, however, that 12-step groups are not in place of counseling or treatment. Please do take good care of yourself and continue to make good, healthy choices in life.
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Before I stopped,I met the pine cleaner bottle too,I had to keep my secret so I would clean the bathroom for three hours,two-three times daily or do my nails ten times to sniff remover
__________________ Straight edge
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jaylan - I'm so glad that you have stopped huffing! Hoping that you have gotten some counseling for the addiction and/or have attended 12-step groups such as Narcotics Anonymous (NA) to support your sobriety. Some people stop using drugs or any type of substance but don't deal with the issues that led them to use in the first place whom may be referred to as a "dry drunk". They quit the substance(s) but continue the behaviors of someone with an addiction.
This site has counseling and treatment programs for those with substance abuse problems: http://findtreatment.samhsa.gov/ and can click one's state of residence on the map. For NA meetings (free of charge though not in place of counseling): http://www.na.org/index.php?ID=home-content-fm For Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) meetings: http://www.aa.org/lang/en/meeting_finder.cfm?origpage=29 and one may attend an "open" meeting if doesn't have a drinking problem. This site has common mottos associated with those 12-step programs such as "One day at a time" which refers to taking each day as it comes as to not feel as though staying sober is so overwhelming and "First things first" which may help if feeling like too many tasks need to be taken care of: http://www.royy.com/toolsofrecovery.html Bless you to have stopped the inhalant use and please continue to make good, healthy choices.
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I feel somewhat relieved that I am not the only person who has to smell pine cleaner every single day. Before I go to bed and the first thing when I wake up. My ex-husband tried having me committed years ago when we were still married. It started about a year after my son suffered a severe brain injury after he was hit by a car. I take empty 20oz pop bottles and mix it with some water and keep them everywhere around the house. My other children have dumped them out and hide them. I take them with me in my car. When I am stressed, it makes me feel better. I will light Pine candles at Christmas but its not the same. My son needs 24hr care & I dont need to end up with severe health problems so I can longer provide care to him. I used to sneak the bottles in the hospital with me during hospital stays after surgeries. I dont get "high" either. The smell takes the stress away somehow. I also have severe anemia. I have for many years. I always pass on the iron infusions. I try to take iron pills but it upsets my stomach. My biggest fear is getting lung cancer from constantly smelling the chemicals. I still feel weird about this crazy addiction but I now know I am not alone.
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HUGS, PinesolAddict5. To say that you have a lot on your plate is an understatement. Being the caretaker of your son must be both heartbreaking and draining. No one can imagine the amount of stress in which you must deal. Please do get outside professional help so that you can learn how to cope with all of those emotions in a more positive, healthy way. My friend actually has a Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI) from huffing at the age of 12, now in her 30s. Other risks include sight loss/blindness, heart/liver/kidney damage, seizures, limb spasms, hearing loss and even death, all of which can happen after the very FIRST time of use.Regarding the anemia, perhaps you can either get the iron infusions or take an iron pill that is in a capsule form which is usually easier on the stomach. I'm thinking that eating food before taking the iron pill may help to be more gentle on one's digestive tract, howeve, please talk with your doctor or pharmacist beforehand.
Field experts have referred to inhalants as "Chemical Russian roulette" as no one can know the last time that they will actually die or lose their quality of life as with my friend. Please realize how imperative it is for you to take the next step and talking with an addictions counselor and/or at least attend a 12-step support group such as Narcotics Anonymous (NA) and/or Alcoholics Anonymous (AA). Those who quit using drugs or alcohol on their own are sometimes referred to as a "dry drunk" as they might not have dealt with the issues that may have led them to self-medicate in the first place and continue behaviors of someone with an addiction. To search for counseling and treatment programs (and some places offer state and/or county funding for those without health insurance): http://findtreatment.samhsa.gov/ and can click one's state of residence on the map. For NA meetings (and the only requirement is a desire to get sober): http://www.na.org For AA meetings (and one may attend an "open" meeting if doesn't have a drinking problem): http://www.aa.org This site has some common mottos pertaining to those 12-step programs such as "One day at a time" when it comes to one's sobriety (staying sober) and "First things first" which may help one to prioritize tasks and can even be said aloud and "People, places and things" which refers to surrounding oneself with a support system and a positive, healthy environment: http://www.royy.com/toolsofrecovery.html Please do be proactive in your recovery especially so that your son can have a healthy mom. Please take care of yourself and make good choices.
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wow a while ago i looked to see if i could find anyone who shared this with me i found nothing. It is great to find that i am not the only one on the planet like i thought and felt for so long. I know exactly how it started, growing up my grandma and my mom always cleaned with pine cleaner and then one day sometime in my pregnancy i was in the bathroom and my grandma had just got through cleaning so the scent was in the room. i checked the closet and found the lil jar she stored it in and just gave it a wiff. i started doing it at first every now and then and it moved up to a jar in my room to having the real bottle to now that i am grown and have my own place i have four bottles in my room and just countless around the house. my family i believe knows but aside from my sons seeing me a couple of times when they where younger no one says anything my sons will ask every blue moon do you still like pine cleaner. this would make me feel sooo embarrassed and hurt not to be able to even explain to them. I make sure i go out my way to keep it from them. I stay up almost all night just to be free to do it without anyone seeing. This kind of back fires becouse now my boyfriend stays up to be with me and so i stay up longer waiting for him to go to sleep wich as of lately he stays up later and later and i find my self getting cranky with him. I have been through sooo much with this from buying and hideing to having to give away or throw away the bottles due to having so many. I am so advanced that i am picky about it. they all dont smell the same if i can locate what i consider to be a good one it smells what i cosider to be i hint of sweet nutty scent sometimes i get bottles that are strong and nasty to me. I beleive this is due to me having a lil ocd and remember what it was like all those years ago when i first started. I have tried warming it in the microwave also and have found this to be to much becouse the cups melt and i had a hard time LYING about why i cleaned the microwave with it. i keep bottles in my room right next to my bed i smell them before i go to bed and in the morning if i feel like it. The one thing that worries me is that my urine in the morning sometimes smells like chemicals its usually stronger when i sniffed for longer periods of time the night before this scares me a lil. It does not get me high or make me sick sometimes if i have a lil upset stomach and i sniff a lil it goes away. i also chew ice while sniffing but i dont know how that came about or why that is seems like the ice goes good with sniffing and makes it less powerfull i dont even sniff unless i have ice to chew. And being me i have an ice machine and all and only like soft ice. after i was in the hospital a lil while ago i found i liked the ice their so much i found myself going back often just to get ice and bring it back home i finally found a method to my machine so i have soft ice. My big problem is how much time i waste doing both the ice and cleaner. I have stopped plenty of times before but dont really know why i start back or dont just stop all together I know i have anemia but i am not ready to talk about this with my family or doctors. i also sometimes get chest pains i think is from this. i waste so much money on this after a bottle is not as strong i get another and all i do is empty a lil out and swoosh it around after it gets less strong i worm it up a lil and when that no longer works i buy a new bottle i go through about up to 4 bottles a week. i dont clean like crazy so i know my family wonder why all the cleaner and esp in my room next to my bed. I have tried to hide it by using different bottles and hiding the bottles when I'm not using them but i get lazy about that and i prefer it straight from the bottle. It does take a while before i get enuf and next thing i know its 6 in the morning. I never really thought about how this affects me physically. I have a friend who started to during her pregnancy I would like to know why is this i know about pica and have researched that but why pine cleaner, why during pregnancy what goes on inside the body wud make you even want to do that. __________________ ss is not alone.
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browsi - Bless you for realizing that you have a problem. Please take the next step and get outside professional help from a certified addictions counselor and/or 12-step programs such as Narcotics Anonymous and Alcoholics Anonymous (one may attend an "open" AA meeting if doesn't have a drinking problem.
You may already be aware, but inhalants are both physically and psychologically addictive, so that may be, in part, why you feel the need to resume huffing even after trying to stop (and on your own). Please take the next footstep and talk with a licensed mental health professional in order to get to the issue of what may have led you to self-medicate in the first place. Those who have stopped using drugs including inhalants (which are actual POISONS) or any other addictive substance without talking with a licensed professional have been referred to as a "dry drunk" as the person hasn't really dealt with the underlying reasons for using at the start and may be living as a person with an active addiction.
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pine cleaner is definatly not my choice of a cleanser but i do have a problem with sniffing and inhaling other cleaners. is this normal.
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mjcusv32 - Please know that it is not *normal* or even safe to inhale chemicals. Please do TELL someone about how you feel the need to use inhalants to self-medicate or for any reason. My friend has a Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI) from huffing at the age of 12, now in her 30s. You really need to talk with a trusted adult including perhaps a guidance counselor before it's too late for you.
Please decide to take the next step and get outside professional help and make good, Healthy choices in life
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Originally Posted by
scentchick No you are not alone. I am not really sure where this all began with me. I have always loved the smell of it. And when it was in the house I was known to take a whiff of it from time to time. But about 1 ½ years ago, I began to develop a real addiction/craving for it. At first I would just sit and smell it when I got home form work for a few minutes, then before you knew it I could not make it though the day without smelling it several times. I have tried to keep it out of my home, because I have no self control when I see the bottle. But so often I end up “relapsing” and next thing you know I walking though the door with a fresh bottle. Even more strange is that I enjoy smelling it most when I am crunching on a huge cup of ice (just thinking about it is making my mouth water). I have brought pine sol bottles only to return then after I have spent days, and sometimes weeks sniffing away at them. I knew I really had a problem when I purchased a bottle from one of those big box stores, then immediately felt guilty about it. I knew that I could not bring the bottle home, so I sat in my car smelling it for almost 40 minutes, while eating though two cups of ice I had gotten at the snack stand. I then returned the bottle the entire time hoping that no one could smell the scent of pine sol on me. I absolutely love the sent and I wish there was a way that I could safely smell it every day as much as I want. I hate that I feel this way about a cleaning product, but I do. I crave pine sol in the way I can only image that a junkie craves drugs and the moment the scent hit my nose it is easy to forget that something that smells so good is bad for you. Initially I found the scent strait form the bottle, to be a bit too much ( I often mixed it with water, which makes the scent even more sweet), however overtime I have began to truly enjoy/crave the scent strait out of the bottle. I like to pour about a third out of the bottle and then swoosh it around before I take a whiff. When a bottle makes its way into my home, I can sit and smell it for 15-20 minutes at a time several time a day. I also like to pour it into the toilets so that the entire house smells of it. As I stated before, I am not sure just how I have gotten to this point. And as this is not really a subject I really want to take up with my doctor, I am not sure where to get help for it. I have never shared this with any one, but I wanted you to know that you are not alone! OMG when started reading your story I couldn't stop. I also like to sniff it while chewing ice. I am so ashamed of this addiction I don't know how to stop. I ask God to help me, and I am just not strong enough to stop. I know it's not good for me, but I can't help it. __________________ ~I beat my addiction~