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PineSolAddict

Registered: 01/24/09
Posts: 1
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It started when I moved in with my now-ex fiance. I always kept a clean house, but I felt I had to "extra" disinfect because I was living with a guy. Other than Bleach, Ammonia, Comet, and The Works, I was looking for another cleaning product. My co worker recommended a pine cleaner. I bought the smallest bottle. At first the smell was TOO strong for me so I used it once in a blue. Then once a week. Then three times a week..then.well it's obvious--EVERYDAY! It was bad enough that I scrubbed and bleached my bathroom and kitchen frequently. After a while, I was sick of finding ways to keep the scent in the house, so I started to sniff the bottle. I didn't take deep breaths because again the scent was so strong. But after a while, I was able to sniff it longer and longer. It is now an obsession. When I walk in a store I have to go straight to the cleaning product section just to see how many bottles of pine cleaner they have. Sometimes I buy, sometimes I just have to see them. I went as far as washing my body and hair with the product just to have that "clean" feel. Unfortunately, I'm so immune to it that I can barely smell it. I love a bucket of hot water, pine cleaner and a fresh sponge. Inhaling this is definately not healthy, but the smell....is so addictable. Ontop of that...Lemon scented pine cleaner AND Sparkling Wave are creeping into my sniffing habit. When I own a house, I know for a fact that I'm going to buy bottles of pine cleaner and splash them all around the house and just scrub, wipe, wash, and scour things down just to have my house smelling like this product.

Does ANYONE have this obsession with this product?
tds

Registered: 03/28/08
Posts: 45
Reply with quote  #2 
Well what you'll find here is that while you may or may not find someone who shares your EXACT addiction, we all have our struggles with various products/substances. What struck me most about your post was the fact you started after you moved in with your fiance. Did you feel pressure to do so? Did it all happen too fast? Maybe you needed to create a distraction or build some distance because the sudden life style change? I can't know of cours but it crossed my mind? Did this addiction lead to the dissolution of your engagement? You may want to speak with a counseling therapaist about unresolved feelings about your relationship. As for the pine sol addiction, please speak with your doctor about any possible nutrient defenciencies. That's really all the advice I have to offer. It will be hard and it won't happen overnight but check in often and keep us posted.
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REAldrugUser

Registered: 01/25/09
Posts: 3
Reply with quote  #3 
I wouldnt  call it an addiction... But yea effing stop doing it! youll die or get brain dammage, is that worth a pine scent....?
scentchick

Registered: 01/31/09
Posts: 2
Reply with quote  #4 

No you are not alone.  I am not really sure where this all began with me.  I have always loved the smell of pine cleaners.  And when it was in the house I was known to take a whiff of it from time to time.  But about 1 ½  years ago, I began to develop a real addiction/craving for it.  At first I would just sit and smell it when I got home form work for a few minutes, then before you knew it I could not make it though the day without smelling it several times.  I have tried to keep it out of my home, because I have no self control when I see the bottle.  But so often I end up “relapsing” and next thing you know I walking though the door with a fresh bottle.  Even more strange is that I enjoy smelling it most when I am crunching on a huge cup of ice (just thinking about it is making my mouth water).  I have brought pine cleaner bottles only to return then after I have spent days, and sometimes weeks sniffing away at them.  I knew I really had a problem when I purchased a bottle from one of those big box stores, then immediately felt guilty about it.  I knew that I could not bring the bottle home, so I sat in my car smelling it for almost 40 minutes, while eating though two cups of ice I had gotten at the snack stand.  I then returned the bottle the entire time hoping that no one could smell the scent of pine cleaner on me.  I absolutely love the sent and I wish there was a way that I could safely smell it every day as much as I want.  I hate that I feel this way about a cleaning product, but I do.  I crave pine sol in the way I can only image that a junkie craves drugs and the moment the scent hit my nose it is easy to forget that something that smells so good is bad for you.  Initially I found the scent strait form the bottle, to be a bit too much ( I often mixed it with water, which makes the scent even more sweet), however overtime I have began to truly enjoy/crave the scent strait out of the bottle.  I like to pour about a third of the pine sol out of the bottle and then swoosh it around before I take a whiff.  When a bottle makes its way into my home, I can sit and smell it for 15-20 minutes at a time several time a day.  I also like to pour it into the toilets so that the entire house smells of it.  As I stated before, I am not sure just how I have gotten to this point.  And as this is not really a subject I really want to take up with my doctor, I am not sure where to get help for it.  I have never shared this with any one, but I wanted you to know that you are not alone!

tds

Registered: 03/28/08
Posts: 45
Reply with quote  #5 
i know how you feel; i truely do. and its almost worse when you are an adult because now you can go freely and get the item of your choice and dont have a parent watching over you to observe differences or odd patterns of behavior. and talk about stooping to lows, i have bought various things: dust busters, humidifiers, etc... saying oh i really could use these things around the house but also being happy about the styrofoam packaging that came with them. i once decided which blender to buy based on the fact that one came in styrofoam and the other did not. i peeked inside to check!! sick, i know
and i understand  not wanting to talk to a doctor. i still havent even though i know i should . i am actually heading back to her to check my iron levels. last time i was there, it was severely low. which i know can lead to PICA in the body. if you arent familiar with the term, it essentially can lead some people to crave/eat non-food items. im no doctor but that is based on my light research. so i finally headed the advice of my doctors over the years, to up my iron intake and low and behold, my cravings to chew styrofoam have all but disappeared!! ive done this of and on since i was maybe 10 yrs old and im now 30. i used to do it every day if i could and now that ive been consistent with my iron, i only did once this month! its something to think about! its helped me break a hold that was over me for almost 20 years. maybe approach the talk with your doctor as one about PICA and then mention the pine cleaner. From what ive heard from others, they (doctors) can seem to want to make it a purely psychological matter when i think its more physical. but again, im no doctor, thats just my opinion.

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obama09

Registered: 02/01/09
Posts: 10
Reply with quote  #6 

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SNIFFING THINGS ALSO, AND PINE CLEANER IS DEFINATELY ONE OF THEM! I THINK I STARTED SNIFFING ABOUT 2 WEEKS AGO. AND I DO EVERY SINGLE DAY LIKE 4 OR 5 TIMES A DAY. ITS TO THE POINT NOW WHERE I WOULD POUR A CAP FULL INTO SOME TISSUE, AND JUST PUT IT UP TO MY NOSE AND SNIFF. THE OTHER DAY MY HEAD WAS HURTING PRETTY BAD WHEN I WOULD LAUGH, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN I GOT REAL DIZZY AND MY HEAD WAS SPINNING. DOES THIS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ME SNIFFING PINE CLEANER? I READ THE BACK LABEL AND IT DIDNT HAVE ANYTHING ON THERE THAT SAYS DELIBERATELY CONCENTRATING AND INHALING CONTENTS CAN BE HARMFUL OR FATAL. SO I ENJOY SNIFFING EVERYDAY


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tds

Registered: 03/28/08
Posts: 45
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But meekah that's b/c they are not expecting you to do so as that is not its intended purpose. They can't know every potential thing someone might possibly do with it. Its safe to say that deeply inhaling it for prolonged periods is definitely not healthy even if you want to question the level of danger/harm. I would be more concerned about WHY you may be doing this. That may lead you to a solution. Like myself or Alley, do you have low iron levels? Has your dr.ever said anything like that to you? Are you stressed? Does it make you feel calm? Maybe if you can determine if the allure is mental, physical, or otherwise- it can help you find the answer. Is there a friend you can talk to?
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cleanfreak

Registered: 02/03/09
Posts: 3
Reply with quote  #8 

I have been sniffing pine cleaner since 1999 literally.  I have always had to have it in my home.  I was in denial when my mother told me that I was addicted.  Then it had gotten so bad that my mom started calling me "pinny" because she said everytime she came over or when I got into her car I smelled just like pine cleaner.  Even my kids started smelling like it because I had to use it all day everyday.  I would crack the windows in the house to protect the kids from the smell, but since I was airring out the house, I would sniff the towels and the bottle while cleaning.  I even put it without water in a spray bottle and just walk through the house spraying the carpets and wiping down the walls just so I can smell it.  I hope it is not harming my body, but I know it probably is, but I just can't help myself.  I love the smell of orginal scent pine cleaner.  I CAN TRULY SAY I AM ADDICTED. I think I am going to get some help.

obama09

Registered: 02/01/09
Posts: 10
Reply with quote  #9 

I DO HAVE LOW IRON, BUT I DO NOT LIKE TO TAKE MY IRON PILLS CAUSE THEY MAKE ME CONSTIPATED. BUT WHAT DOES MY IRON HAVE TO DO WITH ME SNIFFING PINESOL AND MOTHBALLS? I DONT NO WHY I SNIFF THESE THINGS, IT BURNS MY NOSE AND IT MAKES MY EYES WATER WHEN I DO IT. BUT I JUST LIKE TO DO IT! I DONT GET HIGH OFF OF IT! ATLEAST I DONT THINK I DO. BUT I JUST LOVE THE SMELL


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QueshiaB

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Registered: 06/16/06
Posts: 676
Reply with quote  #10 
obama09- Thanks for posting. You mentioned in a previous post that you read the back of the label and thought it was okay to sniff. Have you read the ingredients of what goes into the product?  Every time you take a deep breath of a concentrated amount of the liquid that is going into your body!

Have you tried contacting the manufacturers and asking them about the effects of sniffing their products?

Lastly, good question about the correlation between low iron and sniffing.  Have you asked your doctor?

Is there someone with a medical background who can shed more light on this?

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tds

Registered: 03/28/08
Posts: 45
Reply with quote  #11 
I am not a doctor by any means but far too many people on this blog have mentioned an addiction of some sort and low iron or anemia in virtually the same sentence. Time and time again- I just can't believe that's a coincidence. I don't know if the low iron leads to the abuse or the abuse leads to the low iron but I definitely believe there is a correlation. I have been vigilent with my iron supplements (there are plenty of non-constipating varieties) and my "cravings" have virtually dissapeared. the habit of it pops in my mind every now and then but not the craving that was akin to hunger or a yearning like before. I am simply stating that its made a difference in my life and if I could be of some help to someone else then I definitely want to share that. Lynda4444 has also mentioned that iron has helped her I believe in a different thread. The reason I THINK the iron is related is b/c of pica which can lead people to crave or ingest non food items and this can often occur with people who are anemic. I just do a lot of reading and internet research and its a casual conclusion I've come to. My doctors have always advised I take iron and since I finally started taking their heed, I don't have intense cravings. I never got "high" either just really liked to chew up styrofoam. Never knew why. Smelled good. Chewing it almost kind of let me taste the smell. Did it since I was a little kid. Never knew why or how it started. I can't remember. So iknew it was weird/unusual and I never told anyone; I just liked to do it. But I knew this was not right or healthy. I didn't want to use the fact that no one ever told me not to as a justification for something I knew wasn't right. So I started researching and connecting the dots as they appeared to me. But- please ask your doctor or at least look into it for yourself.
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cleanfreak

Registered: 02/03/09
Posts: 3
Reply with quote  #12 
OK so maybe it is low iron, i have been iron deficient for a while and i dont like taking iron pills, but i will start taking them again to see if it helps. 
QueshiaB

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Registered: 06/16/06
Posts: 676
Reply with quote  #13 
After seeing how this thread has grown since late last month, I contacted the manufacturer and they emailed me the following statement today:
 
Deliberately concentrating and sniffing Pine-sol is clearly outside of the product's intended use and it is certainly recommend that they stop this behavior immediately.  While the product may not specifically warn against inhalation abuse of the kind that they are describing, their actions may be causing them to breathe concentrations of the ingredients above levels that are known to be safe.
 
Please take heed to this, and to the advice of tds about seeking help and asking your doctor about possible causes.

Thanks,

Queshia B
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Stacey7973

Registered: 02/24/09
Posts: 1
Reply with quote  #14 
I would never have thought that there was anyone else on this planet that has the same problem I do.  I started sniffing pine cleaner about 3 months ago.  Up until a week ago, I kept a bottle directly next to my bed on the floor, always within reach.  I still keep a bottle hidden at work.  I read that someone else also empties most of the bottle, swirls it around, and then takes a big whiff.  I feel as if I could do that for hours.  I've been trying to stop lately...I think it's making me really sick.  Surprise, surprise.  I've had asthma my whole life, and have been smoking for about 10 years.  So, needless to say, I've always had problems with my lungs.  But lately, It's been 10 times worse.  It's getting to the point that I'm using my inhaler between 10 and 25 times a day.  That's just insane!  I cough so hard now that almost every time, I go into a fit.  I feel as if I'm going to pass out..I mean, I literally start to swoon.  I'm trying to quit smoking now, but I feel like it's too late.  I can hardly walk up a flight of stairs anymore.  It's straining to walk from one end of my apartment to the other, and it's starting to effect my job and the way I'm able to preform every day tasks.  It seems to get worse every day.  I went to the ER earlier this week, they just gave me more drugs, inhalers and sent me home.  I couldn't bring myself to tell them about my little problem.  I think what makes me feel the worst, is the fact that I just turned 23 years old this month.  What kind of life am I going to be able to have if this does not go away?    Please...someone, what can I do?
scentchick

Registered: 01/31/09
Posts: 2
Reply with quote  #15 

After going over two months without a bottle in the house, I finally caved in an purchased one.  I told myself that I would only keep in in the house for one day, which turned into 8 days.  A few days after removing it from my house... again, I became very ill.  While the root cause was more than likely the flu, the weaken state that the pine cleaner left my lungs in did not help the situation.  My Asthma which is generally under control, got so bad that I had to have a breathing treatment.  Even with the agony it caused me, I still can't help but crave it the smell.  I know this is not good but its hard to to admit that you have a craving for a cleaning product.  Just a side note I also suffer from low Iron, so that may also be a factor in my behavior.  I have to work up the nerve to speak to my Dr about this. 

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