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DUSTERDEER

Registered: 06/03/09
Posts: 10
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So I've been huffing duster.
And I've done it all before. Totally not my favorite drug but I really like it alot.
And yeah dont give me sudden death syndrome I know. Displacing air in your lungs if you take too big of a hit or over-do it.
It's not really an addiction thing or anything. [Alot of other drugs are in front of that line]
But mostly passing it around with my roomates when we thought of something funny to say.
I researched and I'm pretty sure duster CAN do something bad to you because all drugs do but I can't find out what. I huff only pure 100% tetrafluoroethane HFC-134A with no other additives and I found the wikipedia article on it saying how bad it is for the environment and how it causes acid rain but I can't find anything but crock-of-bullcrap sites on inhalants. Like huffifn duster causes leukemia when no. I researched and specifically huffing the components of gasoline does that. Or thinning of bone marrow when no. I researched and only inhalants with tuolene [or however you spell it] does that.
I cant find any REAL scientific evidence with links to THE ACTUAL SCIENTIFIC STUDIES on it at all. Just made up propaganda of lazy and half-researched lies. So somebody please give me a link to some real evidence [and I check all sources cited for credibility] on what tetrafluoroethane specifically does to the body longterm or I'mma continue to huff this duster. *takes a hit*


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DUSTERDEER

Registered: 06/03/09
Posts: 10
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LIKE LOOK AT THIS SITE
http://www.inhalants.org/final_medical.htm
It even mentions the chemicals and how bad they are for you but they never specifically list what tetrafluoroethane does to you. They just kinda of lump it in with different chemicals or say that it gives you health problems that only  the afformentioned chemicals give you.
Like really now. I smell propaganda. You'd think it'd be readily available with CONCRETE PROOF to back it up but I can't find that proof.


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Jarods_fiancee

Registered: 07/06/08
Posts: 149
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dusterdeer,

So you don't want to believe you are harming your body when you inhale computer duster? OK then. You want proof duster is bad for you? You should ask my fiance' Jarod if computer duster is bad for you...oh wait! HE'S DEAD!! He died last June from INHALING COMPUTER DUSTER. You want his toxicology report that shows that difluoroethane (that is in computer duster, which you are also inhaling) caused him to have a heart attack and DIE? Do you want to see that? Do you want his death certificate that shows the same thing??

If you're not on here to get help to stop from killing yourself, stay off this site. For those of us on here who lost someone very important to computer duster, it is more than insulting.

JF

RIP Jarod  1/27/82 - 6/20/08
DUSTERDEER

Registered: 06/03/09
Posts: 10
Reply with quote  #4 
He died from sudden sniffing syndrome. That's how you have a heart attack from it. Not really something from long term effects. That's like dying while taking a hit.

I asked for proof. If nobody can even give me that it's just a bunch of retards that are all crying about people that died from it and haven't learned anything about what killed them and all they can say is a sob story and a cry for attention. Whatever. I'm here looking for facts not a goddamn sob story.


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DUSTERDEER

Registered: 06/03/09
Posts: 10
Reply with quote  #5 
Oh and by the way difluoroethane isn't in my duster. It's just tetrafluoroethane.

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Jarods_fiancee

Registered: 07/06/08
Posts: 149
Reply with quote  #6 
It's not a sob story, it's a fact.

Get some help.
tds

Registered: 03/28/08
Posts: 45
Reply with quote  #7 
JF
Don't even entertain this. No need to dignify it.

Talk about a cry for attention. Bullying strangers on a support board???? Way lame not to mention cowardly. Get out of here...

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DUSTERDEER

Registered: 06/03/09
Posts: 10
Reply with quote  #8 
I'm just lookin for tha facts.
Seems nobody can come up with a legitimate reason for WHY tetrafluoroethane is bad and what it does to your body.
I do have a legitimate question.
But it seems nobody has the intelligence to answer this on the only board I found specifically for inhalants?


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tds

Registered: 03/28/08
Posts: 45
Reply with quote  #9 
What I had to add wasn't for you, it was in defense of my friend JF. I'm not sure what you hope to gain by being openly hostile to people who have formed a community of support. No one has claimed to be a medical expert so If you're looking for scientific evidence in favor of your continued drug abuse, you won't find it here. And with that, I'm done talking to you. You can continue to be rude and hurtful and to curse at people by yourself.
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Jarods_fiancee

Registered: 07/06/08
Posts: 149
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Duster kills. That's all anyone should NEED to know. And it's scary that alone doesn't make you stop or even WANT to stop.

See your doctor for questions.

I'm done with this thread. I don't need this with the living nightmare I already deal with everyday. People like you just make me fight even harder for Jarod.

dusterdeer, I do hope nothing bad happens to you. I would never wish that upon your family and friends to have to live with. If you die from duster, you have ruined your life and theirs. I do wish you the very best. You did post kind of late last night, so I think some others will have some facts for you today.

Best of luck
JF
Jarods_fiancee

Registered: 07/06/08
Posts: 149
Reply with quote  #11 
Thanks for your words tds. It really isn't worth it.

JF
DUSTERDEER

Registered: 06/03/09
Posts: 10
Reply with quote  #12 
Ok. last post. All you guys really proved is all of you know absolutely nothing.
If you're gonna advocate something at least know about it or you look like an idiot.

I mean if I went to a rehab facility saying huffing DRYER SHEETS or SCENTED CANDLES gets me high and I'm addicted; I'll get laughed at. But here all of you would actually believe it.
That's sad.

They agree with your stance, but they actually have KNOWLEDGE AND INFORMATION on their side.
Try it out. It's not gonna bite.

What next? Would you believe I'm addicted to chewing pencil tops?
There's a difference between having a real addiction and being OCD.


[Duster kills. That's all anyone should NEED to know. And it's scary that alone doesn't make you stop or even WANT to stop.]

^AND THAT IS HORRIBLE ADVICE.
You should NEVER EVER EVER base decisions on irrelevant conclusions and appeals to fear. EVER.
No matter what side of an inquiry you're on.


OMG You guys the rapture is coming tomorrow!!
~Any evidence for that...at all?
Who cares?! Doesn't that sound scary enough?

People like you scare me.
-I'm out.

And Jarod's fiancee. You really need to see a psychiatrist. You seem like you really need alot more help than the span of addiction. Are you gonna cling to a bad event and revolve your entire life and every single thing you say on here for the rest of your life? You're not living for jared dude it's your life

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jannazuber

Registered: 02/20/07
Posts: 44
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In my fifty some years of life, I have had occasions to witness the wounded bite the hand of those offering help. One more was just added.


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ThadeVincent

Registered: 05/22/09
Posts: 7
Reply with quote  #14 
A friend of mine has actually been doing some respiratory research at Duke University for the past 9 years, and one of the areas he deals with specifically is the effects of certain inhalants on the lungs.  (And no, he doesn't know about my use).

I asked him about your question, and while he said to not humour you in any way, I thought I would at least give you some information in case you really need it.

He says, 

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"The Tetrafluoroethane that is found in products like duster, after long term use, can actually break down the elasticity of the alveoli in the lungs causing emphysema-like symptoms, and can even lead to illnesses similar to cavitary pneumonia.  Essentially, it will break down the aqueous proteins found in the alveoli and will significantly inhibit the gas exchange in the lungs.  Not to mention, the fact that, when introduced to the blood stream through the lungs, it acts as a trace amount of poison that can negatively effect the rest of the body's soft tissues.  I'm really watering it down for you--there is a lot more to it, but these are the main points of interest.

I really don't understand why this person is so concerned with this compound specifically, when there are so many other chemicals he should be worrying about in the other substances he is using."

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I don't have a link to his research, but I'll ask him if any of it is online, and then I'll post it for you.

Anyway, I hope this helps you.

-T. Vincent

P.S.  There are numerous medical journals online that you can search through that will probably give you some more answers.  It will just take some time/patience.
QueshiaB

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Registered: 06/16/06
Posts: 676
Reply with quote  #15 

DUSTERDEER- First I’d like to ask that you be respectful to other users on the message board.  The “sob stories” you easily brush off are real stories from real people who’s loved ones weren’t as fortunate as you are to be an abuser and still live to talk about it.

Secondly, inhalant abuse is an obscure issue, so unfortunately there is not a wealth of easily-accessible information as say tobacco, alcohol, meth, etc.  In addition to ThadeVincent’s posts, I encourage you to contact the manufacturer of whatever product you’re huffing to pose the question to them and/or obtain a Material Safety Data Sheet on the product- the MSDS will tell you what effects inhaling that chemical has on your body.

I’ve sent your inquiry out to some of our contacts, so will share resources as soon as I hear back from them.

Please note Wikipedia is a good quick resource, but it is not a credible academic source so should not be seen as the final say on any issue.


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